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Namaste Erkan! "I think there might be a few exceptions. Somehow I must think of @[email protected] "? Do I like it? That is deep. general.
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( 49ricu1ture #leet ) #escapeTheArmsOfThePRISM #monitoredObject2011 (section: Health Concern and H1N1)
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Yeah, perhaps the #lesson to learn for the future is: make a clear cut and communicate, so users know #what to expect an…
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Evan: "This (#pump.io) is new software, though, and #sometimes I get it wrong." 😉 https://identi.ca/evan/comment/RxHCMsAzQ-qbr2eHjPplmQ
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RT @simsa0 "But what I fret about (and assume Paul to partially share in that annoyance even for different reasons) is t…
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And @andyc said there: "and I suspect it’s a significant number not just 1 or 2 that got dropped" – no, it’s not 1 or 2 …
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Also of note is that groups return "service unavailable" on archive dot org. For example, https://indy.im/url/5752438
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He also said there: "I have put some time and effort into preserving important URLs on the site. In particular, notices …
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I’ll also invite simsa0 to the !fediverse https://twitter.com/simsa0 – he seems to be tweeting only now 🙁 !lost
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Evan DID tell us to expect that URLS would be preserved. Either he didn’t test that, or was too much in a hurry to even …
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What he really got wrong was his treatment of the active/loyal StatusNet community.
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@erkanyilmaz I can understand if people don’t like pump.io, what I can’t understand is the really negative attitude 🙁
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@erkanyilmaz If I really dislike something someone else has worked hard on, and I have nothing constructive to say I just leave quietly.
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@sazius Really? Being pushed into a super shitty system, for one. Not having real input is another. Ads is a third. Undeletable is 4.
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@sazius And @evan’s super-shitty, self-righteous attitude is the icing on the cake.
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Let me push it from Republican to TeaParty. GNUSocial should block all "at evan" activity including but not limited to f…
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I think Paul and @simsa0 have shared good feedback there, if/when someone wants to address/fix those is another topic
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I think it’s about the data. There seems to be a population for which persistent data is an expectation.
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@johnnynull So Evan realised he could no longer afford to keep StatusNet up, *I* would have just pulled the plug, and said "kthxbai".
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@johnnynull Instead Evan just single-handedly coded a new lighter system together and pain-stakingly moved it over by himself.
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I rumored he should transfer the domain and the data to the GNUSocial effort. Instead he chose to make alpha testers out of identica users.
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@erkanyilmaz OK, I can appreciate that. I just reacted very badly against the tone.
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@sazius Bullshit. Others offered other ways instead of forcing the super-shitty pump on us. I would’ve donated, as would’ve others.
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@simsa0 @sazius @erkanyilmaz Feedback and input has historically been useless there.
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True, but people also need to realise Evan is just one guy – not a big company. I can’t imagine how he pulled this whole operation off 🙂
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@sazius I’m guessing bullshit as well. Also, this doesn’t negate my last dent to you.
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@sazius Er… second to last. Now third to last. ;^)
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@zoowar So he didn’t comply with the rumour… OK 🙂
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@johnnynull So he’s actually doing all this just to be evil and because he hates us? 🙂
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@johnnynull I don’t know what people offered, but I can understand if Evan didn’t want to rely on people donating to keep servers going.
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thx to @johnnynull I’ve found his 1.5 month old account: @simsa0 <- nothing dented yet
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@johnnynull And to be honest, I was angry about the SN->pump switch as well. I just realised I’m not in a position to demand stuff.
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@sazius No, but he has dismissed us in light of this new vision he has.
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@sazius No one is DEMANDING, per se. As I said, there were always other options. We voted with our feet.
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@johnnynull Yeah, that’s totally OK. It’s the rage-quit-rant I don’t like 🙂
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@erkanyilmaz Glad I could help. (??) 8^)
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I saw his nick in a dent you posted today, that’s why :-9
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No, but one big problem is he gives assurances and promises he doesn’t keep (like that URLs would be preserved,via redir…
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@sazius @johnnynull I am probably guilty of rage-quit-ranting but Johnny said my reasons best above. I just voted with m…
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@johnnynull screw crowdfunding, just because it’s maybe an option doesn’t make it viable or desireable.
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Johnny Null
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@kevingranade 1: It obviously works for some 2: It was ONE option 3: It was dismissed out of hand, in addition to shooting down other ideas
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@kevingranade 4: It also doesn’t mean that offering a shit service is to be forgiven.
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@johnnynull 1. Doesn’t follow that it’s an option in the case of identi.ca 2. Pointless 3. I expect he already considered it.
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My tone re pumpio turned sour http://is.gd/0huP6V after a series of suggestions & tests http://linkbun.ch/xd0d not just b/c I like 2 fret 😉
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@johnnynull 4. Evan Prodromou is not your bitch. http://journal.neilgaiman.com/2009/05/entitlement-issues.html
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@kevingranade 1: says you 2: No it’s fucking not. If you think this is pointless, you’re a full-on moron. 3: So he investigated all other
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Johnny Null
Kevin Granade
@kevingranade options? ALL of them? Think hard.
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Johnny Null
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@kevingranade Didn’t say he was, now did I? No, I did not. Grow up.
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@kevingranade You also seem to have missed the part where I said I voted with my feet.
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@whistlewright Yeah, I had my own little rage moment on IRC, and I was really ashamed, because Evan is doing his best, he’s only one guy.
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@simsa0 Most of your complaints are in the bug tracker I believe. And Evan is working his way through the bugs.
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@simsa0 Also at least one of the clients work on Windows 🙂
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So it’s not lamenting 4 nothing but about a software long in the making, lacking basic functionality & to which I had given feedback.
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@sazius Yes he is and if pump is where he wants to spend his time and money who am I to complain?
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@sazius That there is pumpa is not the point. It’s your allegation that I was only bitching and not of just leaving quietly.
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@sazius And why always & only mercy w/ evan and not w/ the user? For now, I keep watching — via pumpio & pumpa.
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@simsa0 are you @laroquod or different persons?
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@sazius wow, nobody has ever asked me if I am a different person / username. A first. No, I’m myself, no other one.
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@simsa0 OK, because I was only talking about @laroquod’s post, never made any allegations about you 🙂
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@johnnynull you’re saying he should have done what you wanted him to instead of what he decided to do. This is an untennable position.
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@johnnynull that has no bearing, you voted, yet the complaining continues.
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@kevingranade Ah, so I can’t make a judgement call then. All bets are off. Thanks for that liberation.
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Johnny Null
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@kevingranade Nope. A question was asked, I answered. You dislike my answer. Tough shit.
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@sazius oh! thx for making that clear. I felt spoken to, as I have received negative replies re tone on pumpio *sniff* 😉
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@simsa0 Sorry, no I didn’t mean you 🙂
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@johnnynull saying "other options exist" is pointles, my issue is with your assertion that donations would have fixed things.
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@kevingranade That was not my assertion, so problem solved.
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